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09 August 2007 @ 01:49 pm
covetousness  
i've been thinking about what it feels like to want things. people keep telling me they want the new phone that is an ipod and a phone and tv or something and it makes me feel sad.
the other day i had to go to a very rich person's house as part of my job. there was a hot tub that looked like it was just a rocky pool that happened to have naturally occured in the yard behind some other rocks and there was an enormous view of the ocean and really pretty trees and a giant kitchen and lots of other things. i had this strong feeling that just being there with my co-workers and having us all admire the place was really wrong. i don't think i want to be in situations where i admire things like that that can only exist because of global exploitation of other people in factories, mines, and fields. i felt how the things i was seeing there could only exist out of severe economic oppression--they wouldn't be the way they are, belonging to the person they belong to, located where they are located--were it not for extreme violence and oppression.
i feel like this kind of thing is what conversations about real estate in new york are about too--when people get to talking about the prices of apartments and houses. it's like this group process of placing value in certain ways, feeling certain kinds of emptiness and desire, that i want to find alternatives to. capitalism is all about having us look up at the things we want all the time, feel insecure and inadequate, and quest for more and more, never looking down at people who have less to see if we have more than enough.
i've been thinking about how we can more actively create communities of desire and pleasure using other values. we're already doing it in a lot of ways, through trans politics and feminism and fat politics and anti-racism, rejecting the values and standards provided to us and teaching ourselves and each other about valuing different things. i want to look at those processes more carefully, see how they work explicitly and implicitly, and think about generating more of them in more places.
in other news, i've been going to this seminar in irvine every day this week. its about the theological-political and my mind is racing and exhausted. i've been enjoying the readings that deconstruct the idea of a secular state, and also the conversations about how formation of modern forms of governnance require those constructions of secularity. we read an interesting book about different groups of people who have believed in and predicted different kinds of apocalypses which was also fun. i don't like having to get myself to irvine every day at all, though.
if you want to see what we're doing, go to http://flatiron.sdsc.edu/projects/sect/main.php?nav=sub&page_id=12
 
 
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oakland_kate[info]oakland_kate on August 10th, 2007 03:18 am (UTC)
As I make my way across this enormous country in what appears to be the very tiniest car in the world, given the monstrosities I see on the road, I wonder how some parts of Utah become coal mines and others become National Parks, and the relationships between the different spaces, and the ways that Vail, CO can only exist because of Carbonville, UT. Your post made me think of this, the way that I live the life I live because others live the lives they live. I'm too tired to say more than this right now.

Oh, and I'm glad you are having fun in Irvine. I really wanted to go to that seminar, but alas, funds weren't available in my new life as an adjunct. But I just love Saba Mahmood's book. Changed the way I think about a lot of things. Enjoy! Let us know what you're thinking about.
powered by nightshades[info]srl on August 10th, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
For your questions about national-parks history, you might want to read Mark David Spence'sDispossessing the Wilderness: Indian Removal and the Making of the National Parks and Crimes against Nature: Squatters, Poachers, Thieves, and the Hidden History of American Conservation. They're both scholarly histories, but they're good examples of why I think Americans need to know more history. If you like them, follow up with almost any book by Patricia Limerick.
oakland_kate[info]oakland_kate on August 11th, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)
Thanks for these references...I'll look them up at my local library. Cheers!
heath mackenzie[info]magnolienbaum on August 10th, 2007 01:36 pm (UTC)
dean! i would love love love to hear more about what you are thinking and feeling about this conference in irvine. i'm starting to get back into some of my reading and thinking about philosophy, theology, and politics. i'm excited to go through some of the work on the conference page.
locallibrarian[info]locallibrarian on August 12th, 2007 11:53 pm (UTC)
And having just returned myself from a weekend that included gazing out over the vast expanse of lake champlain while sipping a ten dollar glass of wine in an Adirondack chair, I totally hear you. What does it mean to gaze at beautiful landscapes, and what's hidden behind/underneath them that makes them go? Fast Food Nation was a bestseller and a fantastic book, in part i think because of how it opened up with a meditation of Cheyenne Mountain. Do you know about cheyenne mountain? So often we look at a beautiful thing--a lake, a mountain, a natural-rock hot tub--and fail to see the blood that makes it possible. Is this what people mean when they say capitalism is spectacular?
(Anonymous) on August 14th, 2007 05:27 am (UTC)
you got a ral smart club going on here. i live in the bronx. my brother is gay and he got a job in LES hauling trash and he met someone who gave him alist of websites to look up. hed never been to the LES before and was just looking for a party. i guess im wondering if anything you are talking about reely matters. i have a cell phone but i dont have an ipod. in the winter my family has to go to the toilet in a bucket when the pipes freeze cos my land lords a fuckin whores chicken head. hot tubs and wine? this is alink my brother got? seems like if you want things to change you should visit the bronx not wonder if youu should buy an ipod and take trains to wonder about poverty and whos blood is in the trees. the blood is right here. its everywhere.
(Anonymous) on August 14th, 2007 12:55 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, the blood is right here and everywhere. You are certainly right about that. Points taken.
(Anonymous) on August 16th, 2007 04:32 pm (UTC)
everything
i think about this all the time, about the all the *things* that we have in our life. they are produced somewhere, by someone, many times by people who cannot afford the products that they are making. i try to make conscious choices but everything from my toothbrush to my cell phone to my salt shaker were produced by someone capitalism wants me to forget. and i feel like capitalism is making a sucker out of all of us by commodifying our dissent, by trying to convince us that if we just bought more of our clothes from american apparel or paid more for our food to be organic we might be able to fix things. and so then only people who have a certain amount of privilege can produce change. it's so backwards that i wonder where we went wrong, and how on earth we're going to fix this colossal mess...

-vero @ myspace.com/immigrantvero
Stefanie[info]jcspd on August 19th, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
Hey Dean, this is Stefanie (from nyu, myspace, etc....I think I always introduce myself like that to you). I've decided to revive my old livejournal, so I thought I'd add you.

ohhh...that seminar sounds fun but semi-insanity inducing.